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that the fiscal cliff won't hit the economy right away. tell actually give lawmakers more time to continue negotiating. but how long can our economy take the uncertainty? >> it is not just uncertainty. we have had that factored in. the reality is that unless the president suspends the increase in payroll taxes that are going to take place, not just social security, but withholding for income tax, while they continue to negotiate, we have gone off the cliff. in the month of january, people will live off their credit cards, but they can only do that so long. come february and march, the higher taxes will require adjustments in the spending habits of folk who is make between $25,000 and $100,000 a year. i would point out that this is no reason to give the president everything he wants and pass that bill that he proposes because if the republicans do that, they lose all their leverage. i have news for most people. if we dont curb our spending, everybody's going to have to pay the higher taxes in the end because things are flying out of ceil. >> no one's talking about spending cuts right now t.
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. >> so despite its name, a lot of strategists say that the fiscal cliff will not hit the economy right away and that could give lawmakers some time to continue negotiating, perhaps, but it's unclear how long the market will tolerate that uncertainty. so, what if no deal is reached and no action is taken? >> well, heather, i actually believe that might be the best outcome of all. when we look at it, there's not really a cliff. what happens on wednesday morning, the first day of the year, we'll roll out of bed and put the gasoline in our car and go to work. so there's not going to be a big change immediately. there will be an increase in taxes, something that's already been agreed to. you know, 12 years ago they agreed to the bush tax cuts would have a sunset provisions and the cuts to spending that will occur were agreed to two years ago with the debt ceiling agreement. so they already have a compromise agreement, they're just trying to change that compromise. >> and speaking of change, what if a partial deal is reached, which is what we're talking about right now, through possibly that
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. fiscal cliff crisis taking a toll on consumer confidence. putting things in context, here it is. a score of 90 on the conference board's index means the economy is healthy. last time we saw that number was 2007 before the start of the financial crisis. over the last two months we've seen steady declines. november's report showed a score of 71.5 and 65.1 in december. that is lowest number we've seen since august. joining us now for more on this is jonathan hunt, portfolio manager for capitalist pig hedge fund. contributor to for fox news channel, good to see you. >> happy new year. >> consumers have no faith in congress, guys get your act together. if there is a deal tomorrow, how do you think is this is going to affect consumer confidence over the next six months? >> it might slightly help but already there is a tremendous damage done. it's no surprise that consumers are not confident. to be confident you have to have some slight semblance of certainty and we haven't had anything like that. consumers want to think long term and budget but trillions of dollars and hundreds of millions of
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saying he is not overly optimistic that a deal will be reached to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. even if they get something passed here there are other challenges that our economy will face. global powers like china and europe and japan are having major problems of their own. that could affect the way they do business with us. joining us is to talk about, ed, good to see you. biggest problem some of these governments to stimulate their economies, die let's just print a bunch of money. that has catastrophic events with them and even with the united states that may tried traded with them. >> that seems to be just to print money. that is not how it works. when somebody prints money, it's devalues their currency which makes anything they want to export or anything that they are importing more expensive. that is why your food is more expensive because we imported a lot of that. that is why energy is more expensive because we import a lot of that. if every country is doing that, its race to the bottom how quickly they can devalue their currency. >> we trade with so many different nations. w
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. >> economists say one of the effects of the fiscal cliff is that businesses are now holding back on spending money whether it be investing in stock, machinery and equipment needed for the company or products they sell. and for a slowly strengthening economy, the shock of less spending could be all it takes to push the country back into a recession. >> businesses are not hiring workers now at the pace we would expect because the small businesses say we can't hire right now until we know what the tax system is going to look like and what our tax bill is going to be in 2013. >> and shannon, economists also say the trend will decrease money in the pockets of consumers so they will have less money to put back into the economy by buying goods and services. back to you. >> shannon: we asked you if going over the fiscal cliff might be a good thing. and boy, did you respond. your answers, next. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purche, everday!
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about 2013? >> it's interesting, i was talking to some people today and they say the fiscal cliff for them started about five years ago. but all is not gloom and doom with this. you look at some of the economic indicators that are out there and what is positive for our economy, number one is the housing market. we have seen a steady progressive positive indicators on the housing market that things are getting better there. another thing is the debt load. it looks like houses are starting to see a significant impact there as well. when you look at the debt ratio to gdp, it's actually decreased to the 2003 level. that means that more families are saving money. also they're paying a lower interest rate on that debt load. so that's another good indicator that we can bring you for the new year. >> heather: so back to the fiscal cliff, we have to talk about that. what do families need to be aware of immediately with the fiscal cliff? we mentioned our paychecks in the intro. >> well, if we go sailing over that fiscal cliff and nothing is done, in the next few weeks you could see a smalle